September 29, 2003

Mob Spots

Over the weekend, Steven Johnson tossed out the idea of Mob Spots: using the web and blogs for campaigns "message" brainstorming. This afternoon, Jason Kottke tossed in the idea of creating a b3ta-like forum (community ranking) for these, which is a great idea.

Now, imaginge an ad percolator/rating system linked to a digital archive for source material, all hooked up to a licensing engine (CC or otherwise) and you'd have yourself a pretty powerful tool...

Should be interesting to keep a watch on and seeing how this develops.

Posted by leonard at September 29, 2003 04:48 PM

Comments

heh. just posted and read this. I saw the mob spot thing this morning, and it was what linked me to the post I just made. I think that Dean probably wants these 'mob spots' in a big way, and who can blame him. I think the point that johnson makes that is so interesting deals with the effectiveness of these spots correlating to their stickiness. he referenced this idea in his second update, when he asked if the iraq bombing of the U.N. is too politically explosive. Sure these spots may be easy to design, but in order to spread, they need to stick. What comes to mind is the research I've been doing on contagious media - check out http://xenia.media.mit.edu/~peretti/

Posted by: William Carter at September 29, 2003 05:12 PM

"Contagious media" is a nice buzzword, and don't get me wrong, it's worth studying from an "academic" perspective, but honestly, I think that the real world (see: blogs) have the spreading and sticking thing more than figured out. See just about any recent Internet meme (or search Google) for reference.

For comparison: how many page views just about anything linked into the Technorati, blo.gs, or other blogging ecosystem pages get, vs Peretti's sites (or hey, how about this page).

Posted by: leonard at September 29, 2003 07:03 PM

yes and no, I think. yeah, blogs have more links to them, but that doesn't necessarily mean that this kind of stuff is really proliferating outside of certain domains. I'd be interested to see if you knew of any stats about the redundency of sites in these networks all linking to eachother. my friends who are not bloggers don't get this stuff, they see stuff that is floating around joe user's dorm room, which in my experience is more like stuff that peretti is doing, and less like a typical blog. the interesting thing to me is trying to come up with atypical blogs that are able to spread throughout a larger network diameter. and in that sense, I think we are talking more about local vs. global infection. Although I suspect you will disagree with that.

Posted by: will at September 29, 2003 07:26 PM

reading my last post, I realize that blogs do accomplish the repetition aspect of stickiness very well. Just as an example, I visited three blogs today - johnson's, joi's, and this one, and all three of them had a post on mob spots. but I still don't think that this kind of stuff is snowballing and reaching out to quote unquote the masses. maybe I'm wrong, and google may 'prove' as much. I just don't feel that many blogs generate the same type of cultural buzz that a lot of these satire / joke sites have been generating. I mean, if I ask my web-unfriendly friend about all your base are belong to us or realultimatepower, and then ask him about the new post on boingboing. And checking technocrati isn't a valid comparison. bloggers link more, and they read more blog sites. Bloggers therefore link to more blog sites. Ok, that is some dubious logic, normally, but in this case may provide some insight into why news and blog sites rank higher. The rich get richer. none of this is to say that blogging isn't a social or cultural force, but I think it's an interesting discussion.

Posted by: will at September 29, 2003 07:44 PM

Hmm, I'm not going to say that blogs are _the_ overwhelming force, but take a look at AYBBTU, or almost any of the recent 'big things' in the past couple of years: Friendster, Flash Mobs, err, Star Wars Kid...

While blogs may not necessarily be at absolute start, they are the grease that gets stuff to the tipping point before it makes it into mass circulation. Almost every single internet meme I've seen hits the blogs before I ever see them (usually months later) hit the mainstream. Why? Blogs are indexed, both by Google (check out the PageRank scores on your next visit) and a variety of blog crawling engines. On the human side, many journalists, pundits, etc now either maintain blogs or use them in picking up/researching stories.

The 'archival' or 'dirty snowball' effect is probably the biggest advantage that blogs have over emails. Emails and IMs come and go, but URLs are forever (or something cliche like that), allowing ephermerids to get to a critical mass.

Posted by: leonard at September 29, 2003 10:00 PM

Faceroll

Erin Dinehart
2nd Year
Nov 18 @ 5:04AM

Anne Balsamo
Faculty
Nov 16 @ 9:39AM

Perry Hoberman
Faculty
Nov 11 @ 2:04PM

Michael Naimark
Faculty
Nov 8 @ 1:03PM

Mark Bolas
Faculty
Nov 1 @ 5:55PM

Scott Fisher
Director
Oct 26 @ 8:38PM

Marientina Gotsis
Staff
Oct 23 @ 11:22AM

Peggy Weil
Faculty
Oct 15 @ 1:51PM

Jessica Rosenblatt
1st Year
Oct 8 @ 3:53PM

Peter Brinson
Faculty
Oct 7 @ 1:06PM

Tracy Fullerton
Faculty
Oct 6 @ 12:17PM

Susana Ruiz
3rd Year
Oct 5 @ 12:26PM

Michael Steffen
2nd Year
Oct 2 @ 1:16PM

Vincent Diamante
1st Year
Sep 25 @ 9:49PM

Noah Keating
1st Year
Sep 25 @ 10:28AM

Justin Hall
1st Year
Sep 11 @ 6:18PM

Jenova Chen
2nd Year
Aug 12 @ 12:48AM

Victoria Moran
1st Year
Apr 17 @ 11:51AM

Will Carter
3rd Year
Mar 3 @ 3:35PM

Kellee Santiago
2nd Year
Feb 16 @ 4:22PM

Chris Swain
Faculty
Feb 4 @ 6:44PM

Jen Stein
Staff
Jan 30 @ 1:10PM

Todd Furmanski
3rd Year
Dec 16 @ 12:13PM

Yuechuan Ke
1st Year
Sep 7 @ 5:15PM

Brad Newman
2nd Year
Mar 6 @ 4:39PM

Mihai Peteu
1st Year
Sep 18 @ 10:09AM

Aaron Meyers
1st Year
May 30 @ 12:47PM

Josh Green
1st Year
Mar 29 @ 2:24PM

Doo-Yul Park
1st Year
Jan 30 @ 5:44PM

Kurt MacDonald
3rd Year
Oct 17 @ 11:54PM

Tripp Millican
3rd Year
Oct 4 @ 3:08PM

Andrew Sacher
2nd Year
Jun 28 @ 10:02AM

Julie Dillon
2nd Year
Feb 15 @ 3:50PM

Erik Nelson
1st Year
Feb 2 @ 6:12PM

Herb Yang
1st Year
Dec 13 @ 2:00AM

Mike Brinker
3rd Year
Oct 20 @ 7:38PM

Shelby Wong
1st Year
Mar 18 @ 6:23PM

Ashley York
2nd Year
Mar 2 @ 10:47PM

Stephanie Weinstein
3rd Year
Feb 15 @ 11:43AM

Anita Stokes
1st Year
Nov 12 @ 3:11PM

Michael Lew
Faculty
Oct 7 @ 2:21PM

Fred Stimpson
Faculty
Sep 8 @ 10:20PM

Erik Loyer
Faculty
Mar 21 @ 8:36PM

Julian Bleecker
Faculty

Eddo Stern
Faculty

Jacki Morie
Faculty