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Dorks, Nerds and Geeks

Me, I like my words to have specific meanings.

It's not that I always USE my words with great specificity... but I like to have that option, in case someone decides to pull apart my point of view with tweezers, take me to task, get down and dirty and semantic. It's happened from time to time, and it's good to be prepared.

I bring it up because there are three words that I think are in a state of sad disrepair. Dork, Nerd, and Geek.

I've been called all three of these things in my life, by friends and strangers alike... and my answer's been remarkably consistent. I'm proud of being a dork, a LITTLE ashamed of being a nerd (though I admit it, I am), and I deny being a geek. This often confuses people who don't think there's a difference... and technically, there's probably not.

But let's be honest, whichever category you ascribe to, the internet has multiplied our numbers. Maybe it's time for a field guide to distinguish the rich and varied landscape of loserdom.

Now these are not the dictionary definitions of these words: the dictionary definitions, as all Word Nerds know, are completely pejorative. We've moved past that and into the era of reappropriation. These are also completely subjective... I'd love to hear how other people use these words, and have my mind changed by wiser folk.

Here's how I mark the difference (and overlap) between these three proud classes of the semi-social:

Dork (n)

A Dork is someone who is overly enthusiastic about his area(s) of interest. Being a dork has to do with passion and excitability. This is why 1) it's impossible to be a "dork" and "cool" at the same time (or at least in the same context) and 2) why teenage girls call their friends dorks from time to time, but less often nerds or geeks. It's also why I have always claimed "dorks" as my people... because this excitement is one of the traits I look for in friends.

Nerd (n)

A Nerd is someone who is extremely focused on their area of interest, often committed to the point of being antisocial. There's the most overlap between this category and the other two: it's sort of a connective tissue between dork and geek. It's also the one with the most consistent social stigmas attached to it, precisely because "focus" is usually anti- or un-social. For instance, I am a nerd for writing this post. I have been sitting here for thirty minutes, pondering whether or not to include a "dweeb" addendum to this breakdown. That is quite nerdy (though the fact that my answer was No redeems me a little).

Geek (n)

A Geek is someone who is extremely knowledgable about their area of interest. While it was once a sign of disturbing weirdness, it's become an increasingly positive trait. Hence the Geek Squad of tech helpfuls, the music geeks that run (or ran... sigh...) your local record store, and the term "geeking out" for quickly acquiring a huge variety of information on a subject. I respect geeks, but I'm not one of them. There's nothing I'm particularly S-M-R-T about... except Lost. I am admittedly a Lost geek (and dork and nerd).

So that's my breakdown. Agree? Disagree? I'm curious to hear from anyone dorky enough to engage in this discussion.

Next up, an even more contentious issue: towards a Unified Theory of Cool. But for now I've gotta run... there's a 12:45 showing of Lars and the Real Girl, which according to two sources is the unsung Best Movie of the year.

And..... post!

Comments (4)

Max [TypeKey Profile Page]:

You basically called me out and asked me to put my geek cred on the line, Jamie. You know exactly what you're doing, confound you.

For prestige, let us first consult the Oxford English Dictionary*:
Dork
Nerd
Geek

Now, for relevancy, let us consult Urban Dictionary:
Dork
Nerd
Geek

When I was little, my father and uncle explained to me that in their esteem, a nerd is someone who understands the mathematics behind a particular problem of field of study to a terrifying degree, but cared little for the actual work of implementing their ideas. Sort of like a wizard who eschews the affairs of men.

A geek on the other hand, is less interested in the theories underpinning a problem, but loves seeing theory in action. Especially if it leads to explosions. Much more like a sorcerer (to continue this eldritch analogy), hedge-wizard, or lesser Mythbuster, who may be an overwhelmingly competent mechanical engineer, but really just likes to see things explode.

Dork has always just meant whale-junk in my neck of the woods, and generally refers to asocial tendencies uncoupled from any particular knowledge or competence.

I think the theory/action dichotomy has filtered into the mainstream in subtle, but tangible ways: Nerdcore hip-hop, for instance, is a great idea in theory, but in practice is often awkward (despite the presence of backup dancers). Even MC Frontalot, arguably the godfather of nerdcore, seems to recognize the inherent limitations of applying nerdly ways to his craft.

Geeks on the other hand will happily bash things together will or nil until something works. Thus the Geeksquad, whose staggering incompetence and moral bankruptcy (google your own damn citation) does little to impede their ability to set up wireless networks.

That kid running around his backyard with a camcorder forcing his friends to wear squibs made of condoms filled with cornstarch blood? That right there is a geek. The kid who reads horror 'zines and can tell you 50 different ways to manufacture said squibs, but is too embarrassed to get his older brother to buy him some condoms? Well, there's your a nerd.

I think however, the definitions are too flexible: our modern argot for describing persons skilled in those less social arts is fluid, and justifiably so. Particularly in those fields where the difference between theory and action are very close. Is writing about science fiction really so different from writing science fiction? Isn't making a game the marriage of rules and their implementation, and properly done, doesn't it involve playing the dickens out of it as you go along?

Personally, I think there is a wealth of untapped pejoratives that are waiting to be similarly reclaimed by our community. Pencil-neck, pedant, know-it-all, space-case, etc. you get the idea.

I myself prefer warlock.

*Those of you who are jerks, like me, and read Interactive from home will have to VPN into USC in order to access the OED.

Tell me WHAT I NEED TO DO to justify calling myself a total warlock, and I'll do it.

I like your categories... though the lack of love for "dork" saddens me it is not a rare thing... but I find it interesting that they revolve around activities.

If the definitions of nerd and geek revolve around activity instead of interest, where sits the lonely Comic Book Guy? He is a specialist, but he is not actively doing/solving anything. The theory/practice dichotomy does not seem to apply (unless I'm missing something).

This does not mean I don't love your Dad and Uncle. I do. My love for them is an undying and terrible fire. But to me, the amateur horror condom-slinger is still a dork.

Tracy Fullerton [TypeKey Profile Page]:

I am disappointed that neither of you included in your remarks some vestige of the classical definition of geek as one who eats live animals or bugs. This is my personal favorite.

Max [TypeKey Profile Page]:

Tracy, that's OED definition 2.

And also totally gross.

Not that we're above such things.

Jamie, you just have to know in your heart if you're cool enough to be a warlock. Just ask Alan Moore.

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