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imdbot: you can use screens 4, 6, 9 and 11 to wirelessly connect if you want to share something
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OlduserNewhandle: second years stealling prime seating from first years, I see
OlduserNewhandle: tsk tsk
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pbellezza914: just keeping tradition alive
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justinallynhall: there's like a 5 second delay on my image
justinallynhall: it's wild
Skeckulous: well that's cause they keep stealing my crayons and fig newtons!!!!!!!!
dread33sf: use the cable..
OlduserNewhandle: blaming the 1st years, eh?
OlduserNewhandle: if only he knew who the REAL purpletraitor is
justinallynhall: I can't use the cable - my current computer can't project!!! :O
Skeckulous: :P oh i know enough to hunt them down!
ThTruffleShuffle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadowrun
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Skeckulous: though the new xbox 360 game looks pretty mediocre
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dread33sf: darpa was doing : simnet" at the time
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justinallynhall: manovich.net presents: simnet: http://www.manovich.net/MEDIA_DB/simn et.jpg
ThTruffleShuffle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser
justinallynhall: common ground - that's what we have in the United States
okamilink: *warm, fuzzy feelings*
Skeckulous: battle tech center
Skeckulous: look that one up
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ThTruffleShuffle: http://www.reviewsonline.com/BATTLE.HT M
justinallynhall: http://commtechlab.msu.edu/publications/file s/battletechmasters.html
justinallynhall: masters thesis on battletech center players
justinallynhall: "BattleTech Masters:Emergence of the First U.S. Virtual Reality SubCulture"
Skeckulous: network info and turned into a "narrative"?
Skeckulous: how was the "data" turned into a "narrative"?
justinallynhall: I remember playing
justinallynhall: they said, this person killed you 2 times
justinallynhall: you killed that guy 4 times
justinallynhall: sorta like post-halo
justinallynhall: but in 1993
dread33sf: this was at Dr. Jeekins in tokyo on the love hotel hill
Skeckulous: ah but not saying you cried when you were killed 5 times by Frank
dread33sf: i spent way too much money there.
justinallynhall: no, that's right
Aaron4281: are there any pictures of these battletech centers?
ThTruffleShuffle: wired article on it:http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1.03/ battletech_pr.html
justinallynhall: yeah but no pix
ThTruffleShuffle: something a little similar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Batallion
ironman28@mac.com: http://www.awn.com/mag/issue5.09/5.09im ages/goodman02.gif
OlduserNewhandle: I couldn't hear him
OlduserNewhandle: what did he say?
mtuters@mac.com: what was that that howard rheingold started?
ThTruffleShuffle: http://wired.com/news/columns/0,71657-0.h tml?tw=wn_index_5
ThTruffleShuffle: teledildonics
mtuters@mac.com: right
dread33sf: here's some pods: http://www.virtualworld.com/
justinallynhall: "girls need a reason to place - boys need a place"
OlduserNewhandle: girls need a reason to fight
ThTruffleShuffle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teledildonics
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justinallynhall: "virtual geographic society"
Skeckulous: is this it? http://jido-genshi.com/battletech.jpg
ironman28@mac.com: charter members included Amelia Earhart and Sir Richard Burton
justinallynhall: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BattleTech_Cen ters
nohaptimusprime: you just wrote that
nohaptimusprime: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ba ttleTech_Centers&action=history
Aaron4281: it was happening in real time on the screens!
justinallynhall: haha
nohaptimusprime: we are truly changing media
Skeckulous: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best_sel ling_computer_and_video_games#PC_2
Skeckulous: change that! it doesn't say Mechwarrior 2
justinallynhall: what kind of game was red planet?
okamilink: Harvesting today's resources for tomorrow's lifestyle.
ThTruffleShuffle: there is a short blurb on Red Planet here: http://switch.sjsu.edu/nextswitch/switch_engi ne/front/front.php?artc=195
Skeckulous: http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/for ums/a/tpc/f/39309975/m/667000735731/in c/-1
ThTruffleShuffle: images of the pods he just mentioned: http://www.virtualworld.com/
Skeckulous: old pod: http://www.dropshipcommand.com/article.c gi?show=2
Skeckulous: lasers
justinallynhall: fuck yeah
justinallynhall: that's awesome
justinallynhall: thanks
Skeckulous: np
ThTruffleShuffle: another wired article on: http://wirednews.com/wired/archive/1.03/ba ttletech.html?pg=1&topic=computers&topic _set=newtechnology
justinallynhall: helping to create a safe space for Bungie
justinallynhall: within Microsoft
ThTruffleShuffle: microsoft's chances against Sony and Nintendo?
justinallynhall: xbox has lost 4 billion
okamilink: no surprise there
TruffleDi: that's a whole lotta red
justinallynhall: haha
ThTruffleShuffle: Jordan predicted 2 billion
justinallynhall: red like hair
TruffleDi: making xbox the redheaded stepchild?
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okamilink: "battle for the living room"
nohaptimusprime: the redheaded stepchild that likes stealing your wallet
TruffleDi: MS was trying to keep Sony from establishing the "operating system of the living room"
OlduserNewhandle: through google
dread33sf: is that why seamus ultimately left MS?
OlduserNewhandle: with google calendars, spreadsheets, acquring writely...
Skeckulous: that's a creepy picture
justinallynhall: seamus left MS to help develop new funding models for video games
justinallynhall: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seamus_Blackle y
okamilink: J Allard?
okamilink: or worse...
ThTruffleShuffle: xbox sales figues as of mid August: http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/11557/Xbo x-360-Sales-Figures-Update-and-Forecast/
TruffleDi: over $100/box loss on original XBox
justinallynhall: how to lose less money with xbox? sell fewer.
fireice104: Carnegie Mellon got themselves a set of 8 Tesla pods last year apparantly....
Skeckulous: kill...
TruffleDi: Let's get a set for 555....we'll just skip the kitchen stuff ;-)
Skeckulous: we should just pull a pirate attack on them
Skeckulous: and go in there and steal all their stuff
justinallynhall: jesse - link?
justinallynhall: hahaha
justinallynhall: nice idea Diana
fireice104: http://www.virtualworld.com/ (halfway down the page)
justinallynhall: ah dammit
TruffleDi: The whole concept of which now is broken?
ThTruffleShuffle: the console market and game development strategy
TruffleDi: ah
ThTruffleShuffle: well, yes with SNES games costing upwards of $60
okamilink: Xbox 360 is selling about 1,000 units a week in Japan. Which is behind DS Lite, PS2, PSP, GBA SP and Game Boy Micro. Japan is big trouble for Microsoft and Xbox.
ThTruffleShuffle: jumping the gun: here's the wikipedia for the game: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beast_%2 8game%29
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justinallynhall: EA is now seducing Steven Spielberg with big game development deals
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mtuters@mac.com: like bolas was seducing him with hmd this afternoon?
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justinallynhall: http://www.flickr.com/photos/justin/260954 292/
justinallynhall: Mark Bolas with a happy VR customer
ThTruffleShuffle: ARG overview: http://www.mirlandano.com/arg-quickstart.h tml
dread33sf: alternate reality gaming network: http://www.argn.com/
ThTruffleShuffle: people who worked on solving the Beast: http://www.cloudmakers.org/
justinallynhall: impossible for an individual to solve
TruffleDi: "the very few cannot entertain the very many for very long"
TruffleDi: ha
justinallynhall: can someone type that ouch?
OlduserNewhandle: the film was only as good as what?
Skeckulous: as the BEAST
ironman28@mac.com: the marketing campaign
Skeckulous: the marking/Arg campaign
OlduserNewhandle: thank ye :-)
nohaptimusprime: marketing in the form of immersive entertainment experiences
ThTruffleShuffle: another good site on ARGs: http://www.deaddrop.us/
justinallynhall: interesting question - what ARG would you create without a corporate sponsor?
OlduserNewhandle: probably something involving balloons
OlduserNewhandle: not sure what tho
OlduserNewhandle: or monkeys
Skeckulous: learn and get experience on someone else's dime
TruffleDi: Kind of reminds me of Dionaea House, only that was more narrative than game
justinallynhall: http://www.edoclaundry.com/
justinallynhall: http://www.amazon.com/Cathys-Book-Fou nd-Call-650-266-8233/dp/076242656X/sr =8-1/qid=1160014139/ref=pd_bbs_1/104 -2804154-9879944?ie=UTF8&s=books
dread33sf: who published it?
justinallynhall: Publisher: Running Press Kids; Bk&Acces edition
justinallynhall: cathy's book: written 4 years ago
ThTruffleShuffle: there is a webcomic that takes a similar mentality, with blogs for all of the main and secondary characters: www.achewood.com
Hardcoremoogles: If you call 650-266-8233 number is still operational
TruffleDi: what do you get? a recording?
Skeckulous: yes
Hardcoremoogles: yeah
Skeckulous: message
justinallynhall: cathy got so many phone calls
Skeckulous: you guys heard of "Dial-A-Song". i'm sure you TMBG people have
ThTruffleShuffle: Epitaph records did a similar stunt with an LA band
ThTruffleShuffle: as did Snakes on a Plane
OlduserNewhandle: he basically told them that they were outdated
OlduserNewhandle: right on :-)
Hardcoremoogles: -We're in the Railroad business, should have bought aviation. Should have looked as it as we're in the Transportation business. Book business vs storytelling business. locked in the format.
OlduserNewhandle: you're a 386 in a pentium IV dual core world
ThTruffleShuffle: this guy has basically told every big name media type to change their thinking, and been right about it too
TruffleDi: And didn't get his ass handed to him for it. Neat!
justinallynhall: he did product tie-ins with Proctor & Gamble
justinallynhall: covergirl sent out 2 million emails
justinallynhall: "happening"
justinallynhall: "teenagers don't use clinique"
TruffleDi: truuuue statement
okamilink: asphalt black = the new hotness
justinallynhall: haha
Skeckulous: Asphault black... - justin shouldn't name make-up
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TruffleDi: He can name makeup...just, only cosmetics for construction workers
fireice104: that's a business I'll invest in.
Skeckulous: Discovery Based Reading
Skeckulous: = you can sell that to schools!
Skeckulous: or Discover channel!
okamilink: Transmedia Storytelling
Hardcoremoogles: TMS
nohaptimusprime: outgrowth of ergodic literature?
justinallynhall: "transmedia storytelling" TMST
justinallynhall: hahaha
justinallynhall: more happening!
justinallynhall: discovery-based reading
nohaptimusprime: kinda reminds me of a next level of a house of leaves
nohaptimusprime: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergodic_literatur e
fireice104: i loved that book, Noah.
nohaptimusprime: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leav es
justinallynhall: 120,000 hardcover copies pre-ordered
Skeckulous: Cathy's Book - this week's buzz of the industry
justinallynhall: give someone a wallet
okamilink: I feel richer.
justinallynhall: seekrit
dread33sf: what was the book series that was a series of actual letters?
justinallynhall: griffin and sabine
dread33sf: chronicle books
pbellezza914: genius!
Skeckulous: http://adverlab.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_ adverlab_archive.html
justinallynhall: Wallets, Magic, and Church Advertising
TruffleDi: High school, mental hospital...not that different
ThTruffleShuffle: zombies are always good
justinallynhall: http://www.seanstewart.org/
justinallynhall: his collaborating writer
Skeckulous: pokemon
Skeckulous: gotta catch'm all
ThTruffleShuffle: books: the ccg
OlduserNewhandle: collect all 1,000,000,000
ThTruffleShuffle: gotta read em al
ThTruffleShuffle: l
TruffleDi: ::shudder::
nohaptimusprime: not so far from franchise series like dragonlance + goosebumps
ThTruffleShuffle: Philip K Dick worked off of this premise
ThTruffleShuffle: information from one would carry to another
ThTruffleShuffle: like Kilgore Trout in Vonnegut
justinallynhall: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilgore_Trout
ThTruffleShuffle: oh, steal my thunder will ya?
justinallynhall: great reference!!
ThTruffleShuffle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8675309
ThTruffleShuffle: revenge!
nohaptimusprime: when will you be able to access kathy's email account?
justinallynhall: hah
justinallynhall: noah - as soon as you make it
justinallynhall: unauthorized expansion
nohaptimusprime: book mods
nohaptimusprime: fan fiction?
TruffleDi: that's closer
pbellezza914: http://www.myspace.com/cathy_vickers
okamilink: Who's the "Real" Kathy?
OlduserNewhandle: unauthorizedly?
okamilink: Cathy.
justinallynhall: spoof - versus remix
nohaptimusprime: so many ways to build "personality" online
justinallynhall: in the same vein as fan fiction
fireice104: justin is working hard tonight to coin a new phrase
TruffleDi: or at least a new word
nohaptimusprime: unauthorizedly wins
ThTruffleShuffle: slash fiction?
TruffleDi: eeew
fireice104: ha
ThTruffleShuffle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash_fiction
okamilink: oh, let's not start on slash
pbellezza914: im adding cathy now
justinallynhall: believe in the hivemidn
justinallynhall: hivemind
justinallynhall: to find the right content
Hardcoremoogles: Zerg Rush
justinallynhall: authorized or not
justinallynhall: hahah
nohaptimusprime: two pictures in the profile
nohaptimusprime: artful amateurism?
fireice104: i just ordered a shirt from edoc and the'yre sold out until the 28th
justinallynhall: probably a trade: jordan helped anthony with boardgames
justinallynhall: anthony talked about edoc on CSI
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nohaptimusprime: funding models for arg
nohaptimusprime: pay for play
nohaptimusprime: ad supported
ThTruffleShuffle: gotta protect some secrets...
Skeckulous: what about ad imbedded?
ThTruffleShuffle: average ARG budget: 3-4 million, 100 people working
ThTruffleShuffle: scout and test phones before you call them
okamilink: that sounds like an amazing job
okamilink: "Can you hear me now?" takes on a whole new meaning.
TruffleDi: It's like a PR scavenger hunt
fireice104: i've told this story before, but some college friends and I rand a pay-phone based game on the usc campus- until they fixed all the phones to stop receiving incoming calls
ThTruffleShuffle: http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/last-call-po ker/index.php
ThTruffleShuffle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Art_of_the _Heist
justinallynhall: art of the heist - well-executed, under attended ARG
justinallynhall: LOST as an example of ARG
justinallynhall: MATLOCK
justinallynhall: I want a MATLOCK ARG
ThTruffleShuffle: Walker Texas Ranger plz
Hardcoremoogles: Chuck Norris doesn't sleep, he waits....
fireice104: LOST had a really interesting problem- people thought there was an ARG long before it was
justinallynhall: Lost: too much distance between the ARG and the TV show
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ThTruffleShuffle: thorough site on the art of the heist: http://www.mckinney-silver.com/A3_H3ist/
ThTruffleShuffle: BMW did something a little similar several years ago with their driver films
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ThTruffleShuffle: the hire, my mistake
ThTruffleShuffle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hire
nohaptimusprime: this was a very early ARG style experience
nohaptimusprime: http://brainyplanet.com/index.php/Treasure
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justinallynhall: something satiating for every level to do
justinallynhall: leave the house - big commitment
justinallynhall: level 3s
justinallynhall: engaging the story beyond the device where it's happening
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justinallynhall: pre "Great Train Robbery" in terms of ARG development
nohaptimusprime: ARG plot extension for fiction television, direct SMS interaction for reality television
nohaptimusprime: and realtime chat communities when shows are playing
justinallynhall: community formed by lack of choice
ThTruffleShuffle: what were those toys in the 80s that would interact with their related cartoons?
justinallynhall: teddy ruxpin
Hardcoremoogles: Captain Power
fireice104: Capatin Power?
Skeckulous: thats a big talk in various cultural studies people
ThTruffleShuffle: could be
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fireice104: I love how often Captain Power comes up in our chats...
ThTruffleShuffle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Power
fireice104: I can lecture at great length about that show...
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Skeckulous: you need help
TruffleDi: i'd sit through that lecture
fireice104: see me after :-)
TruffleDi: haha
pbellezza914: oooo i had a captain power themed birthday when i was 9
ironman28@mac.com: 1950s version = Winky Dink and You
ironman28@mac.com: http://www.tvparty.com/requested2.html
justinallynhall: toyota contractually testing TV show retention as a condition for advertising
ThTruffleShuffle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winky_Dink_an d_You
Skeckulous: Robert J. Thompson - syracuse guy who does a lot of stuff on television and popular culture has a whole talk about the new choice and how it affects the popular culture
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Hardcoremoogles: Nerf actually has a new thing where some of their N-Strike edition guns will interact with custom dvds that come with the game.
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ThTruffleShuffle: you and your nerf :D
Hardcoremoogles: Nerf Sniper Rifle ftw